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SB 5849 (2023-24) Concerning a computer science competency graduation requirement.

  • 1.  SB 5849 (2023-24) Concerning a computer science competency graduation requirement.

    Posted 01-21-2024 07:04 PM

    On Dec 15, 2023 Sen. Wellman and Sen. Nobles prefiled SB 5849 (2023-24) Concerning a computer science competency graduation requirement (https://app.leg.wa.gov/billsummary?BillNumber=5849&Initiative=false&Year=2023 

    SB 5849 specifies that by the Class of 2029 must show competency in computer science by taking a stand-alone CS course, passing a competency exam, or through some other means.  From a practical standpoint, taking a CS course becomes a graduation requirement that all students must fulfill starting from the 2025-26 school year.   If SB 5849 passes as is, our school system has one year to prepare for the transition.    
    SB 5849 does not provide any additional services or funding to schools or teachers beyond what is already available to assist in the transition of CS from an optional CTE subject taken by a fraction of students to something closer to a "core" subject taken by all students.  SB 5849 does not increase the number of high school credits required for graduation.

    This thread is for PSCSTA members to share their thoughts on this bill and to get updates on progress.  



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    Lawrence Tanimoto
    Treasurer/Advocacy Lead, CSTA Puget Sound (WA)
    Bellevue, WA
    K-12 Teacher CTE (retired)
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  • 2.  RE: SB 5849 (2023-24) Concerning a computer science competency graduation requirement.

    Posted 01-30-2024 11:51 PM

    Public hearing on the bill occurred on Jan 17 (FROM 1:17 - 1:54):  https://tvw.org/video/senate-early-learning-k-12-education-2024011276/?eventID=2024011276.

    On Jan 26, bill amended to include the following:

    The state board of education shall collect information from 
    school districts about the courses and other learning opportunities
    currently offered in computer science for high school students in
    their district, how the district already assesses or plans to assess
    competency of the computer science state learning standards and what
    the district may need in order to ensure that students are ready for
    the graduation requirement established under section 1 of this act.

    The data collection required by this subsection may be conducted4
    concurrently with other oversight and monitoring activities conducted
    by the state board of education. The state board of education shall
    report a summary of the information collected to the legislature by
    October 31, 2025, and shall include any recommendations on what
    actions the legislature could take to assist school districts in
    meeting the needs identified by school districts, including whether
    exploring options for increasing the number of educators endorsed to
    teach computer science is necessary.

    On Feb 26, referred to Ways and Means (to consider budgetary issues)

    The new section - I believe - effectively makes the earliest year that the competency requirement could be implemented would be the Class of 2030 (I year delay)

    More progres: https://app.leg.wa.gov/billsummary?BillNumber=5849&Year=2023&Initiative=false



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    Lawrence Tanimoto
    Treasurer/Advocacy Lead, CSTA Puget Sound (WA)
    Bellevue, WA
    K-12 Teacher CTE (retired)
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  • 3.  RE: SB 5849 (2023-24) Concerning a computer science competency graduation requirement.

    Posted 02-05-2024 11:19 AM

    A public hearing on SB 5849 within the Senate Ways and Means Committee was scheduled for Feb 3 at 9:00 AM. Committee Schedules, Agendas, and Documents (wa.gov)

    The written testimony that I submitted on behalf of PSCSTA is below:

    Washington needs a Computer Science (CS) graduation requirement.   We will be doing our students a great disservice if we fail to teach them the foundational computer science knowledge necessary to survive in the 21st century.   However, we have concerns about this specific proposal. It needs to be supported by a credible plan and budget to deliver its expected benefits while avoiding unintended negative consequences.
     
    Currently, the percentage of students enrolled in CS courses and the number of qualified CS teachers are too low to initiate a CS graduation requirement.   Washington state infrastructure for CS education is insufficient to support the rapid growth in demand for CS education that would accompany a CS graduation requirement.
     
    Washington does not have a plan to address these issues, which must be resolved before we can initiate a CS graduation requirement.  OSPI published the Washington State Computer Science Education Strategic Plan in early 2022. However, while it is a source of possible ideas, it does not directly help schools and students meet a CS graduation requirement and estimate the cost of doing so. Neither does SB 5849 specify a credible plan and budget for the Washington education community to develop a credible plan and budget to help schools and students meet a CS graduation requirement.
     
    The lack of a credible plan and budget severely limited the impact of SB 5088 (2019-20).   Since 2019-2020, the percentage of Washington high schools offering computer science has decreased from 49% to 48%.   In contrast, the national percentage of HS offering CS increased from 47% in 2019-2020 to 57.5% in 2022-23. 
     
    The lack of a credible plan and budget resulted in most school districts teaching CS as a CTE course for financial purposes.  Over 97% of our HS CS enrollments are CTE.    However, teaching CS as CTE significantly distorts who takes CS, who teaches CS, and significantly influences the contents of CS courses.
     
    Our funding for CS education is flawed.  Outside of Perkins funding for CTE, current grants are FP656 for AP Computer Science, which will not reach a great majority of students.   FP777, which helps school districts develop and implement formal plans for CS education, has been limited to a fraction of school districts with the knowledge and resources to apply for such a grant.   For a CS graduation requirement to deliver its expected benefits, equity demands that we reach all students and all schools.
     
    Although we believe a CS competency graduation requirement is critical for our student's future, we urge caution in proceeding with SB 5849.  SB5849 essentially requires that by the 2025-26 school year - when the Class of 2029 starts high school - all schools in Washington have the infrastructure in place to help all students meet this requirement.  Washington's current CS education infrastructure is not ready for SB 5849, which transforms CS from a CTE subject taken by a fraction of students to a "core" competency that all must learn. SB 5849 must be supported by a credible plan and budget, or the resulting confusion will disrupt schools and students' lives without providing students with the necessary foundational computer science knowledge SB 5849 promises.  

    It is unclear whether this bill was discussed at this public hearing - perhaps there was only written testimony.   Executive action on the bill is scheduled for Feb 5.



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    Lawrence Tanimoto
    Treasurer/Advocacy Lead, CSTA Puget Sound (WA)
    Bellevue, WA
    K-12 Teacher CTE (retired)
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  • 4.  RE: SB 5849 (2023-24) Concerning a computer science competency graduation requirement.

    Posted 02-05-2024 01:21 PM

    It was discussed in the hearing on the 3rd. OSPI testified much as you did. I testified Pro (as myself), we were the only people to testify. I appreciate that it is going to cost some money and need to clear some logistical hurdles, but I don't think we can keep waiting. With budget cuts looming programs are being slashed as we speak. Here is what I said:

    Thank you madame Chair and the members of the committee for the opportunity to speak in favor of this important legislation. My name is Jennifer Boutell, and I teach computer science.

     

    Diversity in the technology workforce is not improving.

    As a middle school computer science teacher in Tacoma, I see first hand the stark inequities that lead to this flattened trend. Although we are just 40 miles from Redmond, most of the 140 7th graders that I teach at my Title 1 school have never met anyone who works in the technology industry. They do not see themselves as future software engineers, and they are not shy in telling me so. Fortunately, they have this weird lady who keeps insisting they give coding a try. There is nothing more rewarding than watching them debug a complicated problem and realize they can do this. Unfortunately, many of our youth outside of the East Side of Puget Sound will never have this experience. In my district, although we are the third largest in the state we offer only 11 computer science courses across our high school system, less than some of our much smaller neighbors. In the absence of a graduation requirement, Computer Science programs will continue to take a back seat when school district budget priorities are set. In the age of AI, drones, and robotic manufacturing we can't afford to continue this way.



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    Jennifer Boutell k12teacher
    Tacoma WA
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  • 5.  RE: SB 5849 (2023-24) Concerning a computer science competency graduation requirement.

    Posted 02-05-2024 09:06 PM

    The bill just passed out of Ways and Means and should move to the House Floor Calendar next. There is a new amendment about data gathering, the text is not available yet.



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    Jennifer Boutell k12teacher
    Tacoma WA
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  • 6.  RE: SB 5849 (2023-24) Concerning a computer science competency graduation requirement.

    Posted 02-06-2024 12:33 AM
    Edited by Lawrence Tanimoto 02-07-2024 01:47 PM

    Hi Jennifer,

    Thank you so much for testifying on this issue.   Although my testimony is somewhat different, the more people we have speaking out on this issue - especially spoken as you did - on all sides, the better.    

    The testimony on SB 5849 (including yours) is available at https://tvw.org/video/senate-ways-means-2024021047/?eventID=2024021047 from 4:37:00 to 4:45:00.

    Executive session on Senate Ways and Means on Feb 5 is at https://tvw.org/video/senate-ways-means-2024021077/?eventID=2024021077 from about 3:38:30 to 3:42:00. 

    The second substitute bill published on Feb 5, added the following:

    (4)(a) The state board of education shall collect relevant 
    disaggregated demographic data on the student completion of the 
    computer science competency graduation requirement created under this 
    section to assess if the requirement has created any negative impacts 
    on any class of students including, but not limited to, students who 
    are currently struggling in school, low-income, person of color, 
    experiencing homelessness, or enrolled in a school or a school 
    district with high rates of these students



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    Lawrence Tanimoto
    Treasurer/Advocacy Lead, CSTA Puget Sound (WA)
    Bellevue, WA
    K-12 Teacher CTE (retired)
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  • 7.  RE: SB 5849 (2023-24) Concerning a computer science competency graduation requirement.

    Posted 02-08-2024 10:25 PM

    SB 5849 Passed State Senate 46 - 3



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    Lawrence Tanimoto
    Treasurer/Advocacy Lead, CSTA Puget Sound (WA)
    Bellevue, WA
    K-12 Teacher CTE (retired)
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  • 8.  RE: SB 5849 (2023-24) Concerning a computer science competency graduation requirement.

    Posted 02-12-2024 08:39 PM

    The following is the proposed text of the spoken testimony that I plan to give on behalf of PSCSTA during public hearing in front of state House Education Committee on Thu 2/15 starting at 9:00 AM.    We will discuss SB 5849 and this testimony at our meeting at 7:00 AM PST on 2/12.   Note that our position is Other and that spoken testimony can only last one minute.   Using a spoken word calculator, the following took 54 seconds. 

    The bill sets an excellent direction for CS education in Washington and contains many needed reforms.

    However, we are very concerned about the logistics of achieving the requirement for the Class of 2029. 

    We don't know the actual goal.   It depends on a future definition of foundational CS standards.

    We don't know where we currently are.  We have no metrics on our students' current CS knowledge

    We don't have a credible plan.

    We don't know how much it will cost or whether we have any funding

    While the bill seems to provide a long runway, the infrastructure for SB 5849 must be in place by the 2025-26 school year when the Class of 2029 are freshmen.  With all the other graduation requirements, it is progressively more difficult for our students to meet any new requirements each year the infrastructure is not available at their school.   That gives us only one school year to figure all this out, obtain the budget to make SB5849 feasible, and deploy it to every school in the state.

    As much as we love the direction, we urge caution on SB 5849.   There are still too many unknowns.



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    Lawrence Tanimoto
    Treasurer/Advocacy Lead, CSTA Puget Sound (WA)
    Bellevue, WA
    K-12 Teacher CTE (retired)
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  • 9.  RE: SB 5849 (2023-24) Concerning a computer science competency graduation requirement.

    Posted 02-15-2024 10:08 PM

    Video on State House Education Committee is at https://tvw.org/video/house-education-2024021216/

    Portions of this video pertinent to SB 5849 are about 00:01:00 to 00:09:00 bill is summarized and Sen Wellman testifies in support of bill.   Public testimony is from 01:33:00 to 02:00:00.   My testimony is from 01:55:00 on, but I would rather you just read the text below. 

      

    The Puget Sound Computer Science Teachers Association and CS for All Washington are thrilled that this legislature is supporting CS education in Washington.

    However, we are OTHER on this bill and believe that SB 5849 needs the following changes:

    • The foundational computer science standards for graduation must be articulated ASAP.
    • A credible plan for supporting teachers and school districts to help students meet this new requirement must be articulated.
    • The credible plan must be backed by a realistic cost estimate and budget.
    • Students' mastery of these foundational computer science standards at various grade levels must be assessed prior to implementation and thereafter

    • The date of implementation must be delayed to at least the Class of 2030 to enable stakeholders needed time to deploy plan to all schools by 2026 when these students are freshmen.

    We enthusiastically agree that computer science is foundational. We appreciate the efforts of this legislature to require computer science for high school graduation. But without changes noted above, the promise of SB 5849 will fall far short of its goals.

    Only about half of the scheduled presenters actually testified.   Students came in both For and Against.   As for institutions, several statewide institutions that testified were OTHER as were we.  The only institution testifying FOR was CS Forward. 



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    Lawrence Tanimoto
    Treasurer/Advocacy Lead, CSTA Puget Sound (WA)
    Bellevue, WA
    K-12 Teacher CTE (retired)
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  • 10.  RE: SB 5849 (2023-24) Concerning a computer science competency graduation requirement.

    Posted 02-22-2024 10:47 PM

    On 2/21, the bill passed through the House Education Committee 8-7 with amendments: summarized below:

    (1) Delays the requirement to demonstrate competency in the computer science state learning standards by one year, making the graduation requirement begin with the graduating class of 2030.
    (2) Permits students to request a waiver for the computer science competency requirement from their school principal (and principals must approve) if their high school and beyond plan delineates course taking and education or training and career goals for which demonstrated computer science competencies are not applicable.
    (3) Requires OSPI to ensure that sufficient PD opportunities are made available to educators for the purpose of assisting students in meeting the CS competency requirement.

    https://app.leg.wa.gov/committeeschedules/Home/Document/271278#toolbar=0&navpanes=0



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    Lawrence Tanimoto
    Treasurer/Advocacy Lead, CSTA Puget Sound (WA)
    Bellevue, WA
    K-12 Teacher CTE (retired)
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  • 11.  RE: SB 5849 (2023-24) Concerning a computer science competency graduation requirement.

    Posted 02-28-2024 04:16 PM

    There was another public hearing on SB5849 for the House Appropriations Committee on 2/26 at 10:30.
    Because we only received notice late afternoon 2/25 (Sunday), we did not have time to prepare a testimony as an organization.
    However, I prepared the following testimony and informed PSCSTA Board members of my intention to testify as an individual.  

    I have previously testified OTHER on SB5849 for the Puget Sound Computer Science Teachers Association and for CS for All Washington. Today I am testifying as an individual with their knowledge due to the quick turnaround required for this public hearing.

    Computer science is foundational knowledge that all students must learn to live productive lives after high school. As such, I advocate for quality CS education for all students.

    Because the original goal of SB5849 is so dear to me, I cannot testify AGAINST it. However, I believe this legislature has underestimated the difficulty of implementing SB5849. Every major state educational organization has testified as OTHER on SB5849 and urged a more planful approach. Given this bill's lack of clarity, the best cost estimate that OSPI can give is between $100 thousand and $65 million a year.

    Finally, the recent amendment to SB5849 defeats its purpose. It allows students to opt-out if they claim that they don't need CS beyond high school. There is a subset of the current CS standards that all students must learn. This amendment allows schools not to teach any CS and students not to learn any CS. It undermines the credibility of both CS education and of the high school and beyond plan.

    Video is available at House Appropriations - TVW from about 0:17:00 to 0:30:00.    Although I prepared a testimony for 1:30, we only had 1:00 to testify so could not complete my remote testimony so followed up with the written testimony above. 



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    Lawrence Tanimoto
    Treasurer/Advocacy Lead, CSTA Puget Sound (WA)
    Bellevue, WA
    K-12 Teacher CTE (retired)
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  • 12.  RE: SB 5849 (2023-24) Concerning a computer science competency graduation requirement.

    Posted 03-09-2024 05:38 PM

    The 2024 Washington state legislative session ended on Mar 7 without the passage of SB 5849 (2024) Relating to a computer science competency graduation requirement.

    SB 5849 initially passed the state senate 46-3, but many state education organizations - including PSCSTA - testified as OTHER in the House due to concerns about its implementation.   While the reasons why SB5849 stalled are not part of the public record, the end of the legislative session effectively stops SB5849 for 2024.



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    Lawrence Tanimoto
    Treasurer/Advocacy Lead, CSTA Puget Sound (WA)
    Bellevue, WA
    K-12 Teacher CTE (retired)
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  • 13.  RE: SB 5849 (2023-24) Concerning a computer science competency graduation requirement.

    Posted 03-15-2024 06:14 PM
      |   view attached

    From @Jacqueline Russell:

    Multiple bills seeking to mandate school curriculum failed. Here's what they proposed | The Spokesman-Review

    print out also attached



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    Lawrence Tanimoto
    Treasurer/Advocacy Lead, CSTA Puget Sound (WA)
    Bellevue, WA
    K-12 Teacher CTE (retired)
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