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  • 1.  Fortnite Tournament

    Posted 01-30-2024 12:29

    I am wondering if students are allowed to play Fortnite at your school. We have a no violent games policy. In my opinion Fortnite is borderline. We have been doing some game tournaments during our homeroom block / "Power Block" and after school with limited success. I'd love to try a Fortnite competition because it's so popular. I don't know if it's worth broaching it with admin. 

    Is anyone using Fortnite either in class or in an after school activity?

    Thanks,

    Cathy



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    Cathleen Edgar
    Technology Integration Specialist
    Computer Science Teacher
    West Bridgewater Middle Senior High School
    West Bridgewater, MA
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  • 2.  RE: Fortnite Tournament

    Posted 01-30-2024 12:53

    I would not bring Fortnite up to admin personally, or really any shooter. Yes, I know it is super popular, yes I know they are playing it on their phones or at home. But this has the makings of the worst version of "news at 11" all it takes is one parent for this to go really really sideways and I am just not messing with that. I don't even really let my students depict guns in any of their projects.

    If I had to do a shooter, it would be Splatoon. But generally I would not exceed the violence level of Super Smash Bros.

    I have ran tournaments for Smash Bros, Rocket League, Madden and FIFA with some success.



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    Brian Bautista k12teacher
    Citrus Heights CA
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  • 3.  RE: Fortnite Tournament

    Posted 01-30-2024 13:16

    Thanks, I appreciate it. You are absolutely right. It's too bad, but you are right about the possible parent rebellion. ;-) The very persuasive student that is pushing the idea had suggested that students could get a permission slip signed. But that could backfire as well.



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    Cathleen Edgar
    Technology Integration Specialist
    Computer Science Teacher
    West Bridgewater Middle Senior High School
    West Bridgewater, MA
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  • 4.  RE: Fortnite Tournament

    Posted 01-30-2024 13:23

    Yeah, I get a few of those trying that every year. I would always redirect them to Smash Bros or Splatoon if you/they have access to nintendo switches. The optics of kids shooting at each other with even fortnite level violence at school is just asking for a PR nightmare.



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    Brian Bautista k12teacher
    Citrus Heights CA
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  • 5.  RE: Fortnite Tournament

    Posted 01-30-2024 13:33
    At lunch my room is the game room.  Most are on Fortnite   Considering the amount of shooting and killing they see on TV I pretty much ignore it.  A few years ago there were a number of studies researching if playing first person shooters led to an increase in violence among kids.  The studies seemed to indicate the opposite.    There were some hand wavy psych rationals.

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    Garth Flint
    Computer Science Teacher
    Loyola Sacred Heart High School
    406-531-7497





  • 6.  RE: Fortnite Tournament

    Posted 01-30-2024 13:37

    Yeah, kids playing a shooter is not the problem and I am definitely not smacking a phone out a kids hands for playing fortnite at lunch. It's just when it becomes a school event that things can get sideways because of one person's reaction to it.



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    Brian Bautista k12teacher
    Citrus Heights CA
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  • 7.  RE: Fortnite Tournament

    Posted 01-30-2024 13:51
    Our local university hosts our esports.  All their games are specifically non-shooters for that reason.  There are some excellent non-shooter games out there.  They do SmashBros (technically a fighting game but so distant from reality) and Rocket League.  I wish they would do FallGuys

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    Garth Flint
    Computer Science Teacher
    Loyola Sacred Heart High School
    406-531-7497





  • 8.  RE: Fortnite Tournament

    Posted 01-30-2024 17:34

    In Riverside Unified we don't allow students to make games with guns of any nature.  I don't know for sure if we have a board policy or not but as Brian discussed it is just safer.  I do know Unreal is really trying to get Unreal Fortnite Editor into schools so I'm curious what success they've had if any (From the Unreal Accelerator last Summer).



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    Nate Walker k12teacher
    Riverside CA
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  • 9.  RE: Fortnite Tournament

    Posted 01-31-2024 08:52

    We play Fortnite, and Apex Legends. I would definitely go to your administration and ask. The kids are already playing the game, so why not get them playing at school with an adult role model in the room. They can build relationships with classmates, feel more connected to school, and have the activity they enjoy validated as worthwhile. 



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    Birkedal Brian k12teacher
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  • 10.  RE: Fortnite Tournament

    Posted 01-31-2024 10:11

    What are some of the details as to how that was allowed/passed?  What steps were taken to make it so? Our district is overly cautious in the violent game category.  Is it a small school?  District?  We have over 42,000 students within our district and intermittently are addressing social media threats and "bomb" threats.  Many of the threats are just comments without any true plan but our Board is hyper-sensitive.




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    Nate Walker k12teacher
    Riverside CA
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  • 11.  RE: Fortnite Tournament

    Posted 01-31-2024 10:33

    I started by reading the book Moral Combat: Why the War on Violent Video Games is Wrong, I used a lot of the topics in that book to address the boards concerns. I discussed the "types" of students that would participate in the program, and how the benefits of being involved in extracurriculars would extend to these students as well. I also included how a part of program would be set aside to discuss digital citizenship and how to represent yourself online, as well as navigate the areas people are concerned about with online gaming. I used the "would you rather have them at home playing without supervision being influenced by who knows, or in a room with a caring adult modeling positive behavior in this space". The last last thing I brought up is how it is a growing college "sport", and there are many scholarships available that these students would have access to because of being involved in this activity. 

    James O'Hagan is another person that was a great resource for research and evidence to why you should start an esports program, and we have another contact in our state if you would like message me, I could share your contact information with her. She is great in this area as well.



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    Brian Birkedal
    7-12 CS
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  • 12.  RE: Fortnite Tournament

    Posted 01-31-2024 15:43

    So, I have five students in my game development class building in Fortnite creative. Yes, there's some gun violence, but the goal is building a good game. My rules are pretty simple: no public maps; creative or UEFN only, no extreme violence (over and above the violence exhibited in Fortnite game mode), no sexual, lascivious, or otherwise icky content that would go against school policy. Other than that, have fun, make something cool.

    Some students are building racing games in Creative, some are doing stealth mode games, some obstacle courses. I frequently show videos of what people are creating with UEFN, and the amount of jobs out there looking for people who have experience and/or expertise in UEFN is growing. 

    Nobody really comes in my class, never asks to see what students are doing. All students in class know who is building what, and we have a common Notion board where we post our updates to our games. If it becomes a PR nightmare in the future, well, then I'll address it at that point. Otherwise, let the kids explore game development with tools that they're already familiar with. Note, we are a remote school with a fairly small population.

    One thing that is driving me nuts, though, is students using GAME CONTROLLERS to make maps on FN. Seriously, are you that against using a keyboard + mice, which is significantly more reliable and faster?! Kids these days...



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    Anthony White
    Top of the World CSTA Vice President
    CS/Game Dev - Kodiak High School
    Kodiak, AK
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